I pretty much never review products. Mostly, this is because I rarely buy the
newest, hottest gear. I’m a big fan of
top quality goods that are already a generation old: my bag is stuffed with gems like Nikon 80-200mm
f/2.8, the 35-70mm f/2.8, and SB800s.
But I’m making an exception today, both because the product is fairly
new, but also because I think it’s an exceptional deal.
I posted earlier about lighting alphabet soup, which was
essentially a summation of my purchasing criteria. I wanted a bigger strobe than my SB800s, one
that could compete with the sun outdoors.
I settled on the Nicefoto 680W. “Nicefoto”
isn’t the most confidence inspiring name to emerge from the smoky factories of China, but I’d
read some good things about it and the specs were excellent.
The Nicefoto 680W is equipped with a rechargeable battery
that other reviewers have found to get 400+ flashes at full strength. It comes
with both an optical trigger and a built in 2.4GHz radio trigger. The power goes from full to 1/64 in full stop
increments. There’s a modeling lamp, and
cooling system. And it utilizes IGBT
technology, which means the flash has a very short T.1 time (up to 1/7,900th
of a second) for freezing the action.
Great specs, and at $420 a good price, but how well does it perform?
Features and Build
First, 680 watts is blindingly bright. There’s more than enough power for most people. The unit is built very well-- very sturdy,
well thought-out, fairly heavy, and all the parts fit together snugly. It feels, in short, muscle-bound. The Nicefoto has a host of thoughtful little
features, too. There’s a handle that
folds down for your human light stand, and a hole with tightening screw for
attaching to a non-human light stand. It also has a second small handle that
flips out from the top to make it easier to hold while attaching to said stand.
There’s strap, a cold shoe to clip your radio trigger, and trigger input. The LCD is large and bright, and the
button-interface simple. The only misstep in the design is the umbrella holder,
which is at the top of the handle. The reflector and the umbrella post collide,
making it impossible to use both at once.
Considering how much thought went into the rest of the unit, it’s
baffling and there’s no elegant work-around.
The reflector is a Bowen mount, though, which means there are plenty of
attachments available (including reflectors with umbrella holes).
Both the optical and radio triggers work well. It would have been nice if you could control
the output from the trigger. Another odd
over-sight. The trigger appears to be
universal (it works on both my Nikon and my Pentax) and has a pass-through,
which is a great bonus. I can control my other strobes from the camera. The
simplicity makes it easy to use, quick to set-up, and really a joy so far. The modeling light is decent for checking
your shadows, but too weak for anything else; it’s daylight temperature, just
in case 35 watts is enough for your project.
Quality of Light
Independent testing by the folks over at
www.lightingrumours.com verify that the color temperature is 5600; it rises to
a slightly bluer 6300 as you decrease the power to 1/64th. That’s pretty accurate in my book. Recycle time is about 4.5 for a full pop, and
the output is consistent.
Like your hotshoe flash, the IGBT flash times shortens as
the power decreases. In regular mode,
the flash time decreases from 1/320th at full to 1/7,600th of a second
at 1/64th power. There’s a FP
mode for that clips it even sharper-- again with a commiserating loss of
power. There are five FP settings, the
slowest (1/2000) is equal to about ¼ power.
The fastest (1/7,500) is pretty dinky.
Here’s the confusing part for me.
In my initial tests, the FB mode doesn’t appear to be any faster than
the regular mode: at ¼ power the flash
fires at 1/1,600th of a second in regular mode.* That’s virtually the same as the FB
mode. The FB mode appears to be a
placebo for the most part, but it’s hard to complain because 1/7,500th
of a second is very fast.
You’ll notice I haven’t mentioned HSS, only FB. These two terms have merged into something
synonymous and they’re not. Frankly, I’m
not sure what FB refers to anymore. The
680W has an FB mode designed to reduce the flash duration. HSS, on the other hand, greatly “lengthens”
the flash duration by turning it into a serious of rapid pulses. HSS is slightly
more useful because it allows a faster shutter speed, thereby reducing the
ambient light. With “FB” (or a short
flash duration) you use ND filters to reduce ambient light. The Nicefoto
doesn’t have HSS capability, but it does have multi-flash, which allows you to
program multiple distinct flashes for long exposure photography. It’s use, for
example, is to show five distinct moments of a dancer’s movement without
photoshop.
Conclusion
All in all I’m impressed with the Nicefoto 680W, and I’m
looking forward to spending some time with it in the field. The wireless design and handle makes it very
efficient, and it performs just as promised.
Comparable strobes costs $100-$400 more, which is why I decided to post
a review.
*I’m metering the light output and utilizing the flash
duration charts supplied by Nicefoto.
Does it work with high sync triggers ?
ReplyDeleteif yes, HOW ?
I'll confess I haven't tried, so I can't give a real-world answer. There is a sync input, but high speed sync is more complicated than that. And I don't know what role the different triggers would play in terms of compatibility and timing.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious how this triggers. I'm already using the hot shoe on my camera to trigger some Yongnuo's. How would I trigger this at the same time?
ReplyDeleteThere are a couple of trigger options, Jesse. It comes with it's own radio trigger (option one). It has a pass through hot shoe, but I don't know how compatible it is with other brands (and if you're using TTL forget it). It has a built in optical trigger, but for I haven't found this to be completely reliable. For a final option it has a mini plug for a hardwire trigger sync. If your triggers have a (3.5mm?) cable out, you can trigger that way. Some $12 optical triggers have this ability, too. What I do, though, is set my other flashes to optical trigger (SB800s) and use the Nicefoto to trigger them.
DeleteThanks, Robin. I'm working strictly manual (no TTL), so maybe this will work with my Yongnuo trigger if I stack them. Doing mostly architectural and real estate, so need to avoid cords.
DeleteI ordered one yesterday, so in a week I'll know how it all works.
Let me know how it works out!
DeleteI got my N Flash and love, love, love it. It triggers with no problem. I just stack my Yonguo trigger on top of the N Flash hot shoe trigger and it all works fine.
DeleteI would really love to buy either the 480 or 280 versions but can't find a supplier in the US:-( Aside from eBay and no warranty or order overseas and pay more;-( Would you mind sharing of a source in the US, I'm welcome to a good used kit as well?
ReplyDeleteThank you,
Tina
nijamajo38@yahoo.com
Hi Tina, Sadly I can't be of much help. I purchased mine from eBay. I'm curious about your preference for the lower watt model over the larger? I had smaller flashes already when I bought this (so bigger made sense in that respect), but while I love the 680 it is less facile that my SB800s: bigger, harder to place, and can't be adjusted remotely.
ReplyDeleteHi Robin,
ReplyDeleteMy lack of knowledge is apparent as I'm not just new to the world of lighting but Photography as well:-) My reasoning in buying a lower wattage was from what I've read it would be overkill for my needs? I'm setting up a small home studio and want something I can easily use for outdoor Portraits (Senior pics, family, maybe pets). I'm also considering the Godox QT or QS300. At this point I have a SB600 so less options to start with and I figure buy what I want once rather than buying to resell and trade up? Any advice is VERY welcome!
Thank you,
Tina
Well, take my advice/thoughts with a grain of salt and two pinches of prudence, because I think your equipment should really fit with your shooting style and what's easiest for you personally. The 680 may be overkill in your studio (I rarely go above 1/32th power indoors, and it only goes as low as 1/64th). But outdoors you may want more power than the 480, and surely more than the 280. The 280 probably doesn't have any more kick than your SB600. I don't know the Godox, but it looks like the QS300 is wired; I can't tell you how convenient it is to have the Nicefoto be battery. If you want to shoot outside with the QS300, you'll need a power pack which will defeat the $$ savings. I'm really happy with the power output on the 680, but I also have three SB800s if I want something smaller-- both output and for carrying around... all of these big strobes are a box of stuff. A couple of 680 quirks: it comes with an umbrella mount in the light handle, but not the reflector-- you have to go bare bulb or buy another reflector; the optical trigger doesn't work all that well-- inconsistent and it was always firing at the same output, regardless of the setting. I have to use the radio trigger and set my SB800s to optical. Also, it syncs at 1/160th of a second. At 200 I get a black line. Not to make your decision more miserable, but you may want to consider buying two cheap knock-off TTL on camera flashes that better match your SB600. That wouldn't solve the shooting outdoors issue, but having a three-point lighting system you can control from your camera has a lot of advantages. I haven't looked at any of these flashes, but I'm thinking along the lines of this: http://www.amazon.com/Neewer-VK750-Speedlite-Display-Cameras/dp/B00GE4MNQA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461266839&sr=8-1&keywords=nikon+ttl+flash.
DeleteI love this light but HSS only works when on FULL power. I did have to purchase new triggers for it to work. As far as US Distributers, I bought mine at www.Cowboystudio.com located in Allen TX.
ReplyDeleteHI . . . i wish the unknown person would share what triggers he bought. I have the 680 and it has worked perfectly but that issue of HSS has troubled me. I may have to purchase a second strobe solely for HSS.
ReplyDeleteIf you get more info please do share.
www.jesterpix.com is my site
Will do. I'm afraid I have no idea what he's using.
Deleteyo compre el 680a y no me funciona en hss con el disparador que viene por defecto, que es el cn-2.4g, solo sincroniza a 320 en modo fp, pero no lo he podido hacer funcionar en hss, talvez tenga que comprar otro disparador tigger de alta velocidad que aparece en la pagina de nicefoto.cn, pero la verdad es que no me han contestado los mails que he mandado manifestandoles el problema
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